People say women wouldn't play an ogre but I definitely would! They are one of my favorite races and hope they implement them into the future. The skybourne race is disappointing and wish they were a bit more creative with it but I digress. Sorry if you don't agree 🤷‍♀️

These were the micro-transactions in Project Ascension and everyone glazed Ascension. TurtleWoW had a gacha shop too like that. I’m genuinely confused, if Blizzard had even the slightest of the shop in Project Ascension, everyone would have been fuming. Why is it okay for Ascension but not WoW Forever? Either all okay or none.

Edit: The people who disagree saying "Yeah but the servers were free"- well of course because Blizzard did the majority of the work for them LOL, huge difference in work between building everything from scratch to ripping it off & adding some stuff yourself.

Edit 2: "TurtleWoW is not as bad as Ascension shop"- sure, Ascension is way worse. TurtleWow's cash shop had over $10,000 of items and all of it was per character, not account wide. They also sold convenience items, nothing game breaking, but portable mailboxes, auctioneers, dual specs, bags etc. Hardcore characters on Twow couldn't trade or send items from main to your alts, but you could still buy supplies such as 32 slot bags for 30 euros each on your hardcore character.

EDIT: Looks like I was misinformed and under the wrong impression. Many people pointed out with evidence that rain and snow are both in the game, but by the look of the toned-down version, it might be too early to say.
So, put your pitchforks down, and let it be a lesson for me how easy it is to spread misinformation. I REPEAT, RAIN AND SNOW ARE IN THE GAME(to some degree)

So far I'm loving the game's atmosphere and graphics, but I do dearly miss weather effects. How about we make it loud and clear that we want them back? How do the rest of you feel about it?

(not my photo, grabbed it from internet)

Edit:
I can see people are reporting that they have seen rain in a few zones, namely Tirisfal Glades and Darkshore. There was one maybe for snow. I will hold off on posts until a bit more time passes so we can confirm whether or not it's only some zones that can have rain and if snow is actually in the game (and also how intense it is.)

Edit 2: Someone pointed out that there is a video from Xaryu's stream (42 minutes and 40 seconds into the video) where you can see snow is actually in the game. The only question that remains now is how intense it can get. In the video, we can see it is snowing very lightly. I'm waiting for someone to report some heavy snowfall.

So to clarify, sorry guys - I jumped the gun. Weather effects are, in fact, in the game. The question remains: how intense can those effects get?

Feel free to downvote this for me spreading misinformation(i genuinely was thinking they ware missing until people started to report them in)

Some of y'all need to chill it seems.

Blizzard was originally going to release Classic+ (Forever) with retail character models. But Clay put on his battlegear and stood firm at the gates.

Let us all stand with our protector. Healers must keep him alive, fighters hold his flanks. We will need him in the coming Forever war.

Savix has the story here at 2:37: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp2T7_0fs3Y&t=157s

As the title says, I played the hell out of 'Classic Plus' Forever today while at Blizzcon. I have Media Pass and theres a couple stations set up for us to use to record footage and make content on. I sat there going over each classes new talents, did multiple dungeon runs and leveled for awhile. To preface this, we were capped at LV 38, so I can't speak or vouch for anything beyond that.

First thing i want to say is that this game is nothing remotely close to Retail. The people saying that have the IQ of a sandal and just want to hate on it because their life is miserable. At no point was I playing this and was reminded of Retail. Even when I was testing out the "HD" version, it didnt have a retail feel. And I play the shit out of both Retail and classic normally. I was expecting more of a Retail vibe honestly, but wasn't there. It literally felt like I was just playing a new version of Classic. I tinked around on all the classes, but I really went hard on Warlock and it felt like an alternative universe Classic Warlock.

The talent trees are the same as Classic: three spec trees, can put your points into whatever tree you want. You're not locked into a tree. The new talents are a mix of talents from Classic, TBC and WOTLK. There are also new talents and some that are combinations of two different talents from other expacs. For example, Improved corruption in Classic simply lowers the cast time of Corruption, making it instant cast. Whereas in WOTLK Corruption is instant cast baseline and instead Improved Corruption buffs Corruption. In 'Forever Improved Corruption both lowers the cast time AND buffs the dmg of Corruption. There's a few talents that are blended together like that and I really love that.(altho I think Corruption should be baseline.) There's other talents like that scattered throughout the classes, along with new ones that have not been seen in other expacs.

As mentioned, we were capped at LV 38, so limited on dungeons. The one I repeatedly did was "The Drowned City". Was a longer dungeon that fit perfectly into the game. Didnt feel forced or out of place. Dungeons mob/difficulty was cranking if mobs got loose. Not one shooting me at full health, but I played with a bunch of random groups today and there were plenty of wipes in some(if the mages didnt blow their load before the tank could get agro) otherwise they were clean. It all depends on your group. It felt like threat was rough, but it could've been the tanks in my groups not knowing how to play yet. There were times that my 2nd-3rd tick of Corruption would pull agro on mobs in a pack if the tank wasn't doing something. Not complaining about it, just wanted to mention it.

The only thing that I could MAYBE say sound close to a retail feature is the new Legacy Talent feature. This is more or less achievements you do(account wide) that reward you with a legacy point that you can put into its own tree for a wide range of random things that aren't game breaking and help with professionsa alt leveling, etc etc. Retail doesnt have anything like this, but its the closest thing to retail I could think of. Besides the menus and UI. The UI is like full blown retail. Which you can toggle off to go Classic UI(graphics)

Obviously theres a new race, its not for me, mainly because I play Warlock and they can't be Warlock, but I did level one as a Mage for awhile and the zone looks dope. The mobs died a little faster and did close to no dmg at the lower, but seems to go back to what we are used to around LV 8 or so.

Thats it for now. I'll try to think of more stuff, leave a comment if you have a question and I'll try to answer it. I'll be streaming the game from Blizzcon main floor in the morning and will check this to see what else I can find out and answer. All in all, so far the game is impressive. Unexpectedly so. Excited to see how it ends up. Fingers crossed that we're here "forever"... (sorry, had to 🤣)

Edit: You can choose to start at LV 1 or a template that starts at LV 38. Template gear wasn't crazy.

People who played the previous Classic servers know this just leads to people buying summons from people (bots) with lock / clicker accounts.

https://kotaku.com/new-things-learned-world-of-warcraft-forever-2000734005

This is tragic, the number of pms I've gotten about this name while fishing is huge

For people unaccustomed to Classic WoW, Oily Blackmouth is probably the 2nd most iconic fish (behind deviate ofc) in the game because its needed for Free Action Potions, THE pvp potion.

I mean if they start to ban streamers, we are so BACK and RMT finally is taken seriously.

EDIT: Apparently he got unbanned after 4 hours, a small slap in the wrist as he is a streamer 🤦‍♂️

TDLR: He was forced to duel for top 4 paladin without major CDs while opponent was unfortunately given an advantage of all CDs—in a tiebreaker match to qualify for the finals group.

My friend got eliminated one duel away from top 30 in the WoW tournament and made this video about what happened. He doesn't have a Reddit account, so I'm posting it for him. We feel like the situation was pretty unfair. Curious what you guys think!

Share so we can get this reviewed. They were hesitant to delay and it wasn't a fair duel.

Please Post your Feedback for the new Skyborne Elves in this Megathread.

Skyborne threads moving forward will be removed and forwarded here.

Some people seem to forget how much this community being vocal and persistent mattered in getting Forever, and before that Classic. The Forever team are Classic andies, and they're designing it for people who want more of Classic. That's obvious from listening to the podcasts and dev interviews.

Will it please everyone all the time? Of course not. But if the beta and their recent course corrections are any indication, it's going to be really, really good.

Being excited about the game and giving feedback on what could be better go hand in hand. Keep giving them something to work with.

I've seen far too many posts saying calling people "mental" and saying that anybody who isn't happy has a mental illness.

WoW Forever looks incredible and ticks so many boxes. I am hyped. But I also do not understand Skyborne. It's like they were thought up by a separate team who have never played Classic. I'm pretty sure they don't exist in the lore at all, which is odd, because it instantly takes us out of the feeling of classic. That's the issue a lot of people have. We can't play the game without them, so it irrecoverably ​taints a game where so many ​​things have been done right.

Anyway I guess I just want to say​ please stop with the name calling. We all love wow, we all have slightly different opinions, and we all just want to have fun. ​

For everyone in the herd that doesnt care that we lost the 1% hit for 2% crit damage

Were running back the all tauren naxx

/Moo

Seriously, what the f*ck is wrong with that mount? Please explain that to me.

For some reason this sub has gone wild because you can get to LEVEL FUCKING 10 roughly 10% faster than on WoW classic.

You wanted more quests? You have them. You are now complaining because it’s too many quests and we outgrow stuff quicker? Don’t do those quests and you will level at the exact same pace you did on Classic.

You wanted different items? Sure, here’s new items, new quest rewards, some more money, some more greens while you level up. You are now complaining because you have ‘more power’ than before because of the new items…

I DIED PLENTY OF TIMES AS A PRIEST ON MY WAY TO LEVEL 10 BUT PEOPLE SAY IT’S IMPOSSIBLE. I HAD TO DRINK IN BETWEEN EVERY PULL BUT PEOPLE SAY YOU DON’T NEED TO. ITS THE EXACT SAME SHIT AS CLASSIC JUST WITH NEW STUFF. (!!!!!)

This game ‘target audience’ is so fucking niche, that the best thing Blizzard can do is simply not to listen to them.

I’m a Classic Andy, we finally have something new and exciting and all I see is complaining. Go back to ERA with the same 500 people that have been playing it and then ask yourself why no one else plays that version of the game.

PLEASE BLIZZARD don’t let this loud minority ruin what it seems to be an awesome game.