Previous world record was like 283k or something, set in v46 by heavily exploiting the ai that were bugged in that version.

In the end I lost this battle, but I was able to do my longest knight chain, and it was a fun game

Finally completed a long term goal of 200k on all non special tribes. Took me over a year, but I kept grinding my lowest scoring tribe until all 200K. Will try for Aquarion and Elyrion, but I've found them difficult. Anyone have 200k on either of those?

I am a bridge guy, so its sad when i cant build a bridge between 2 frozen tiles.

Lets goooo

Aquarion on 900 dryland

Started this game in creative. 4 opponents, crazy difficulty. I almost died at the start with losing 3 out of my first 6 cities. But then I built such a strong economy I was literally spawning Knights in every city every turn and sacrificing them into the shredder that was the enemy's 15 bombers until I eventually was able to brute force through. Later in the game there was a point where there wasn't space in the ocean to move a unit because it was filled with bombers, each bomber having a knight inside of it. At the end I got so impatient I just converted all my bomber back into knights and just yoloed all of them into 4x defense Defenders. At the last turn I convertered all my 2000+ stars into temples.

I am a new player and this is only my second full game other than tutorial so you might find my playstyle wierd or inefficient.

Civilization has crumbled. Old empires are gone. Mighty armies are no more. The only thing that remains are dragons travelling around the world, conquering the islands one by one, leaving behind only pristine nature almost untouched by polytopian hands. They chase after the only ones who still remain to resist them - the dwindling armies of undead warriors, travelling from island to island in a futile attempt to reverse the magic of the dragons.

However, they are slowly running out of supplies and warriors. All cities in the world have been ruined beyond repair by the magic of the ruthless dragons. Once the undead capture a settlement, all they find are empty halls that can no longer produce a single star. They regroup, use some of their ever decreasing resources to build few ports and boats and move on. And above the empty seas, dragons chase after them.

Some undead become stuck on islands they arrive at, having no more resources to repair their ramshackle boats. For them, the only option is to dig in and await the arrival of the world's new masters. Their stoic bravery is futile, for once dragons arrive, the battle lasts no more than few minutes. The magic hold onto the island is then reestablished and the storm moves on.

The undead know their time is running out. But the fight against dragons is the only purpose they have left, and they carry the last memories of the old world. So they continue in their futile quest until they either succeed or turn to dust.

I am okay in the early game (normal, one enemy). But I think I suck at rhe phase that is starting now: Cleaning the enemy and growth. Any tipps how to move foreward?

Woohoo! 🎉

i was thinking of going philo off the bat

My previous highest was 183k with aimo. So that big leap with yadakk is surreal 😮😮

Every time I post perfection Im asked about strategy and tips :) Let me say that first, you improve over time. When I was starting, I was proud reaching 80k. Then I managed 100k and tough thats a peak. Once I did 130k and I was like "I will never manage to do this again". And then... I did 150k. And I saw a post of a guy doing 150k challenge. Oh boy I was thinking. I doubt yadakk can ever do this. And then... I did 150k challenge myself reaching 150k with every civ. At that time I was often placing in civ top5 rankings already. And then I did 160k as the rules of the game changed slightly. And now Im doing 170k challenge.

If you would tell me in the beggining, I would not belive it. The story is, you improve over the time. You think the game is figured out. Yet you find another strategy to squeeze even more points. Be proud of your score no matter how much is it.

Now I can reach 150k in nearly any game. But I dont finish many games since I can tell ahead how am I doing in the middle. And closing up a game takes me a lot of time. So I rather play a new one.

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The general strategy

1. Start by disabling civs you dont want to play against. I disable unique 4 civs (always), cause I kinda like golden standart. But I guess somebody might farm vs polaris or so. I also often disable vengir & xinxi (too deadly) and aimo (bad layout), omaji (too quick to die or kill), kickoo (too quick on water). In some games I allow only 1 or 2 civs as it is fun. Such as Zebasi all in can roll amazing.
2. You dont want to start in the corner. And with too much water around you. And if resource around you are too scare. I look for area that I could use as golden spot for markets. TLDR you want place for 6 trees, 2 lumber camps and 2 markets, that will make 8star market. But 7star is fine. If these conditions are bad, restart nearly immidiately. You need a lot of restarts.
3. There is multiple scouting strategies. You can scout early, in turn 0 or 1 to keep expanding quicker. Or in turn 2 to get higher chance for 5 star discoveries. The scout can utilize mountain (higher vision), dock (water walking), or no dock (to force scout on land). Over the time you will understand that starting in middle is actually good.
4. In this particular game I think I didnt use dock, but rather went for food, one guy went left and discovered 2 opponents and scout run down and discovered few. As a result I went quick diplomacy, used 4 stars embassy and made 1 cloack for 8. This was only possible because opponents annihileted themself and was too far from my city, otherwise they would target the cloak immidiately. This was a massive breakpoint that set entire tempo of the game. That said, I do not always play cloaks. Sometimes I play fast giants, mass archers, swordsmans and recently I did a great game with mass knight rush. Snipping early with ramming ship is also nice.
5. I did another cloak and started the combat. Whilist scouting more, making some embassies and trying to befriend others. The trick is doing strategic attacks. Because others will like you more if you fight their enemy and are more likely to accept peace and then you generate more stars. So attack the guys that are fighting everybody.
6. I often befriend some that are relatively close to me and let them live on purpose, but do not allow them to take other cities. That works great as a decoy.
7. After killing first 2 opponents I didn't actually play perfectly as I went for a farms first, but then reallized the area is better for trees and went sawmill. So I did some mistakes in fact. Anyway before I killed my first opponent I staled 1 turn to make some cheaper upgrades. After killing first one I immidiatelly went for markets and sawmills. TLDR got 43 stars income on turn 10.
8. It is hard to keep income and army rising at the same time. But there are few tricks. Each unit has a place. If you see opponent turtling, go monk or cloak immidiatelly. Knights have high damage and are also good for sieging defenders. Archer is unique in the way it might walk 2 steps and then fire, so doing support archers in the back is good. Similar with knights but those are more pricy. Raider is good for early scouts mostly, or late scouts. As he can move, attack, move. If you make giants, bombard ships or catapults, try to make them in the more centered cities and areas since they are harder to move and your siege will be faster if you have spread. Also when you dominate initial area, go quickly for corners as taking corners is important. Often befriend opponents in middle since they are easier to siege later.
9. Temples. The another reason for good alliances is that your ally might start making temples, which is useful. Having some extra temples early is good. The best case scenario you can start temple mass as early as turn 17. Before that turn, poor everything into income. The temple will reach maximum points if you make it as late as 22 turn. But premaking temple will help you to make more temples that big. Killing opponents is also very important as you dont want to spend stars on more army.
10. In the best of my games, I kill all opponents in turn 22. But in many games it is later. Sometimes turn 28. The game can still be quite a lot of points even if it is later. If you kill opponents before turn 28, sell all your units immidiatelly and build temples. First build temples in trees as they are cheaper. If you kill opponent at turn 28, sell only rounded price units. Such as those for 2 or 8 stars or giants. If you kill later, dont sell.
11. While you build the temples, save some areas around cities to level them up in the last turn. If you run out of space, destroy docks and replace them with temples.
12. On the turn 29 I do nothing. Just cumulate stars. Usually the income is 200-220. In this game the peak income was only 196, so too high income doesnt determinate succesful game. In fact at turn 28 or even sooner it might be worth to destroy some of your lumber camps in favor of temples. Assumign lumber camp would generate 2 stars till the end of the game, the 5 star cheaper temple might be more valuable.
13. On the turn 30 I level all cities I can, often using remaining monuments. Then I destroy all markets. For cities that has some points over I destroy lumber camps and replace them with temples. Which you can do as long as it doesnt delevel the city. If no more city can be leveled and no more lumber camps can be replaced, I place temples. If I run out of space I create units. As units adds same points as not-leveled temple, but doesnt require dock destruction (+5 points).

They should be exiled to their own server.

Heck just put them in their own matchmaking pool with the other special tribes and let them play Bug Simulator against each other, FOREVER.

No need to nerf them. Just remove them from polite society.

There I said it.

I am trying to get 85,000+ points for each tribe, and I’ve accomplished this with the exception of Luxidor. I find that starting out with no technology is very difficult and can only get up to ~65,000 points.

What is the strategy for Luxidor? Do you expand borders in the first city to unlock more resources or increase the population to rush for a giant, sacrificing economic growth in the long run?

Which technologies do you research first?

I’ve been stuck on Luxidor forever! Please help :,)

Just got 3 stars for all tribes on Domination and am now on to perfection because I don’t know what else to do. So how does the scoring work exactly? Do you just want to have the best battle skills you can? Does it make a difference if you choose to have 3 opponents rather than 15 opponents?

New to the game. All the guides I've seen are several years old, but they all say Embassies is the way to go. It's just that when I try this - embassies get really expensive fast. So not sure if I am doing it right or if it was nerfed?

Im doing 190k perfection challenge all tribes. I have 3 tribes left, vengir amongs them.

Yesterday I did 187m, 186k and 184k in 3 different games. My top score is 189k with vengir. I feel so close yet so far. Feel like opponents are refusing to make monuments/temples. So even with some busted income and possibly the highest income I ever had in this game (perfection competetively) I have not managed to compensate lack of infra on few last cities.

My current strategy is make warrior and move sword toward opponent. Attack it on turn 2. On the turn 3, before city conquare, do scouting, preferably with mountain research. Then research fish and something toward diplomacy, conquare city and do secondary scouting (sea scout), getting diplomacy and start star mass.

Turn4-5 going for cloack to ambush nearby luxidor city (high star provider). Aim for market expanse at turn 10.

Aim for 50 stars income on turn 10. And 100 stars on turn 15. Start building temples on turn 16-18.

On one of previous runs I did like 120 stars income on turn 15 while finishing off all oponents about 23. That is ridiculous income and is higher than in any other of my plays with other tribes, where some has over 200k result. Yet, 190k has not been reached.

Now Im wondering if something has changed. After one run where I destroyed everyone on turn 20 with 240 stars income, yet reaching only 186, Im experimenting with giving opponents more time to expand, befriend them with diplomacy and let them to possibly do some monuments. But currently no luck. Maybe I need to select active tribes differently.

For this run all unique tribes are disabled (thats my default). Xinxi, oumaji and kickoo, aimo are also disabled as it lead to too many quick deaths. Zebasi got disabled due to lack of forest. The rest is enabled to lower vengir counts as it also causes too many deaths.

Ideas?