r/TopCharacterTropes • • 8d ago

Lore [Annoying trope] The creators did not do the math

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  1. Harry Potter. The number of students in Hogwarts doesn't really make much sense. Rowling claimed there were 1000 students, but based on the number of named characters in Harry's year and if you consider it a normal year, the number should be closer to 280. Regardless, both numbers are quite low when you consider that Hogwarts is the only wizarding school in Britain, between 40 and 143 kids born per year, that's a quite low wizarding population to what is implied. And that's not even getting into how the school doesn't have enough teachers for a school this size, since each subject for several years is taught by just one teacher.
  2. Star Wars. The size of the Clone Army and the Droid Army during the Clone Wars has been the cause of much debate over the years due to conflicting numbers given by canon and EU sources, numbers that are either too low for a galactic-scale conflict in the case of the clones, or absurdly high in the case of the droids, ranging from billions to trillions to even quintillions.
  3. Naruto. The Allied Shinobi Forces was composed of 80,000 ninja from all 5 ninja villages plus the samurai. However, these numbers don't really make sense when you compare it to the number of applicants in the Chunin Exams and how less than 20 people pass each year.
  4. The Flash. The speed feats of the Flash get a bit absurd and nonsensical, the most infamous being that time the Flash said he could perceive attoseconds. Or that time he evacuates over 500,000 people in South Korea one at a time 35 miles away from a nuclear explosion in .00001 of a microsecond. How the hell does this guy struggle with any villain again?
  5. Dragon Ball. A commonly-cited (mostly as a joke) anti-feat for Goku is how he struggled to lift 40 tons (10 tons on each arm and leg) in base form during the Buu Saga. This despite the fact that he's supposedly stronger now yet in earlier chapters he could lift objects that were clearly far heavier.

r/TopCharacterTropes • • 25d ago

Lore Actors who suggested a change to their character’s design, personality, or lore because they thought the original script/concept was too lame

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Lucius Malfoy (Harry Potter) - Jason Isaacs

The studio originally wanted him in a modern Muggle pinstripe suit with short hair. Isaacs thought that looked like a boring businessman rather than a powerful wizard. He demanded the long platinum wig, wizard robes, and personally added the snake-headed walking cane that conceals his wand.

The Thin Man (Charlie's Angels 2000) - Crispin Glover

In the original script, he was just a generic, chatty action movie villain. Glover thought his lines were incredibly cliché and boring, so he suggested cutting all of his dialogue. He turned the character into a completely silent, hair-sniffing creep, making him the most memorable part of the movie.

Count Dooku (Star Wars) - Christopher Lee: In Episode II, George Lucas originally scripted/choreographed Dooku to use a standard, straight lightsaber. As a real-world world-class fencer, Lee found the standard hilt design clumsy and "lame" for a master duelist. He convinced the team to give Dooku the curved hilt, completely changing the character's fighting style and lore to fit elegant, fencing-based Makashi forms.

Superman (Superman 2025) - David Corenswet Following Henry Cavill's trunkless suit, director James Gunn and DC Studios initially leaned toward a "no trunks" design for the reboot, fearing that the classic red briefs looked too outdated, silly, or hard to make look "cool." However, David Corenswet passionately advocated for the trunks. He argued that Superman shouldn't care about looking cool. Instead, the trunks are intentionally a little silly and theatrical — like a professional wrestler—making an immensely powerful alien look approachable and safe, ensuring that everyday citizens and kids wouldn't be afraid of him.

r/TopCharacterTropes • • 2d ago

Lore [Lore Trope] - This timeline is shockingly short

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Psychonauts

Every game takes place over 24 hours, with the VR game taking place immediately after the first. Being generous, at most this entire franchise takes place over the course of a week.

My Hero Academia

With how dire the stakes get and the power level these characters reach, along with this being a story set in high school, you would think this story took place over a couple years. But in reality, the story goes on for at most 14 months. These characters had to go right back to learning algebra and writing book reports for two years after fighting the Anti-Christ Superman.

Jojo's Bizarre Adventure - Golden Wind

Another manga example, it's explicitly shown that Giorno's story ended on April 6th of 2001. Based on other information and how little time passed between encounters, this would mean the story started around March 29th. Meaning this whole manga and the takeover of a criminal organization happened in about a week.

Alien Franchise

A play on the trope from Ripley's perspective, since she enters hypersleep between movies. So despite there being many years in between them in-universe, from her point of view this whole franchise has been just one awful weekend.

r/TopCharacterTropes • • 5d ago

Lore “Hey that’s not so bad- SWEET JESUS”

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A shot is set up in such a way where it looks fine from one angle, then they reveal another that makes it look way worse

Infinity War - Thanos reveals Nebula hanging up imprisoned, then when the camera follows Gamora going to her we see that mechanical components are stretched out and her head and body are in pieces.

Breaking Bad - Hector sets off a bomb in a murder suicide against Gus but he seems to walk out fine impossibly, then the camera moves to in front of him and you see half of his face is just not there anymore.

r/TopCharacterTropes • • Sep 23 '26

Lore [Loved trope]Moments where the Voice actors/actresses just had bills to pay.

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1.Asuka's scream after her robot(which is connected to her body)got impaled in the head(Evangelion]

2.Caine's breakdown in The Amazing Digital Circus.

3.Azula's entire mental breakdown and crying in the last episode of the Last Airbender.

r/TopCharacterTropes • • Sep 11 '26

Lore [Funny Trope] Children’s show with insane lore implications.

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Bluey: Rusty’s Dad is serving in Afghanistan which is how we know that the Bluey universe is just our universe with dogs. So there was a dog Hitler, dog Stalin, dog Osama bin Landen etc.

The Little Bear Movie: This is a pretty niche example but I watched this with my daughter the other day. For those who don’t know Little Bear is a wholesome very simple show about a bear who goes on adventures and plays games with his friends who are other woodland creatures. His Dad is a fisherman and his Mom is a housewife, they don’t do anything specific to bears and they mostly act like a human family.

The Little Bear movie introduces all of these insane lore implications such as feral bears, implying that there is some divergence between settled bears who exist in civilization and bears that live in the wild like animals. Additionally, it adds what is to my knowledge the only “evil” character in the entire universe a cougar who is hunting Little Bear and his friends. Up until now all animals have been shown to have the intelligence of humans and live in harmony so this cougar is essentially a cannibalistic serial killer.

r/TopCharacterTropes • • 14d ago

Lore ”Scary” animal scenes that becomes less scary the more you actually know of animals

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In Dr No James Bond’s enemies tries to kill him by releasing a spider into his room. That spider is a Tarantula one of the more calmer Spiders species whose bite is not much worse than a bee sting. Also spiders in general don’t deliberately bite humans. I find this example particularly unintentionally funny because if you have no knowledge of spiders this scene is a scary assassin attempt but if you do it comes across more like Bond’s enemies were pranking him.

In the movie “Holes” supposedly dangerous “yellow spotted” lizards are played by bearded dragons that IRL are non-venomous and unable to seriously harm humans with their bite and are know to be pretty calm and docile.

In Raiders of the Lost Ark with the ironic exception of the cobra used in this shot most of the supposed dangerous snakes in this scene are either non-venomous snakes or legless lizards.

r/TopCharacterTropes • • Sep 20 '26

Lore Advanced aliens didn't invent/discover this one basic thing.

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  1. The Santi, from The Three Body Problem, are masters of dimensional engineering. They can build an AI computer the size of a planet, and fold it into the size of a photon.

But they never invented the concept of lying.

  1. The Asgard, from Stargate, are an advanced civilization with FTL travel capable of spanning different galaxies. But they need the help of humans to fight their enemies the replicators, a mechanical lifeform comprised of replicating lego blocks, because human guns can blow the blocks apart, while Asgard energy weapons are just absorbed.

The Asgard say the idea to use chemical reactions to launch a blunt object at high velocity never occured to them.

  1. Despite having the ability to build a simulated beach, complete with simulated earth atmosphere, The Eridians didn't discover relativity and radiation.

  2. The aliens from War of the worlds just lick everything, clearly having no concepts of germs. Which is what kills them in the end.

  3. Despite having FTL travel, the Havesters from Independence day, never invented network security, as they are hacked by a human macbook.

r/TopCharacterTropes • • 6d ago

Lore Insane scenes that are surprisingly from the original source

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In hunger games catching fire, Johanna strips in front of Katniss and Peeta in an elevator. It sounds like a random fanservice scene but this was also a scene in the book.

I can basically include the entire Baki show but one of the weirder moments was Yujiro not using a door 2 feet from him and walking through a glass wall. Which is also in the manga.

r/TopCharacterTropes • • Aug 13 '26

Lore [Weird Trope] There’s a clear moral to the story, it’s just objectively toxic/bad.

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Raya and the Last Dragon — Trust blindly, even if it costs you everything

The core theme of the movie (which it makes very clear) is to have faith in the goodness of people, and to trust those you otherwise might not. Good, simple moral. But what they actually show is Raya being punished over and over for putting faith in people, even getting Sisu (the Last Dragon) killed because she “didn’t trust” the antagonist Namaari, You know, who currently had a crossbow pointed at her friend’s heart. In the end, everyone basically dies except Naamari, who only saves the day because she has a last minute crisis of conscience. So the takeaway is to blindly trust people who’ve repeatedly screwed you over, because not doing so might ruin your life. And if you (very understandably) view certain people with suspicion, whatever harm they might do to you is actually your fault.

Peppa Pig — Mr. Skinnylegs

This one isn’t serious but it’s fun so I included it. In episode 47, season 1 of Peppa Pig, Peppa and George find a little black spider hiding in their toys. The kids initially freak out, before being calmed by their dad, who explains that spiders are harmless friends. The episode ends with the kids holding the spider in their bare hands and having a tea party with it. In Britain, spiders by and large are harmless. In Australia, where the show is also popular, they very very much can kill you dead. So for a few years, the ABC had to take down the episode, lest Australia’s children start thinking huntsman spiders and redbacks are playmates. The episode has since been allowed to be shown.

r/TopCharacterTropes • • 8d ago

Lore The villain was *actually correct* this time (no Thanos you weirdos)

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Yorinobu Arasaka - per the events of the heist, Yorinobu is Vs enemy... right? They are the one person that knows Yorinobus secret and they were actively trying to steal from him.

However, Night city is never that simple. In truth Yorinobus goals are very similar to Johnny's of all people, he wants to destroy the corp completely from inside. Him murdering his father is probably the best thing an Arasaka family member does in the game

Leto II Atreidese - a nearly immortal and despotic ruler that forces humanity into years and years of forced peace and obedience following his fathers mass murderous jihad across the galaxy.

Letos true intention is to be the final tyrant, to make humanity ungovernable om the scale of the Landsraad or the Emperor. Before he dies, he reveals that humans now have the ability to hide from prescience, the ability Paul used to such effect.

His death scatters humanity and completes the Golden Path Paul envisioned.

r/TopCharacterTropes • • 17d ago

Lore The horror is far older than you think.

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Basically the idea that the horrors we encounter in the series in modern day were encountered by peoples from long before us and we see their recorded encounters through cave paintings and the like.

The slenderman cave paintings which date back to 9000 bce

The zombie cave painting from world war z from 60,000 bce

And the cave painting hieroglyphs from Ted the caver. No dates given.

r/TopCharacterTropes • • Aug 30 '26

Lore [Rare Trope] A story element that popularized a concept is actually the polar opposite of that concept

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Some franchises start off a bit specialized and evolve into something else later. Some stories get warped by pop culture and burdened with misconceptions. Some stories just don't make sense, or send the wrong message on accident.

Not these!

No, these examples are very clear (and not retconned) and yet pop culture has done a complete 180-degree turn on understanding them.

  1. Romeo and Juliet routinely gets alluded to as though it's a classic love story. In fact it is an intensely melodramatic tragedy all the way through, everyone is shallow and exploitative and desperate--and they die for it. Even the opening of the play self-indulgently advertises how dire the whole situation is.

  2. The One Ring from The Lord of The Rings isn't exactly meant to be a cursed item that corrupts the greedy or weak-minded. Geeky discourse loves to offer up examples of characters "strong enough" or "pure enough" to resist it, but The One Ring turns that trope on its head. The One Ring is an amplifier for power but lesser beings can't make full use of it. Being strong and noble and pure makes you more corruptible, you can bear a heavier load of its dark essence.

  3. Keyzer Soze from The Usual Suspects is one of the most famous examples of a villain who fooled everyone and got away with his plotting scot-free. However, the whole huge convoluted mess of a scheme was intended to kill off the last living enemy capable of ID'ing him. Not only did Soze accidentally leave a new witness alive who then cooperated with the police and their sketch artist, he also got himself closely inspected by a whole police station (who now know his true identity.) Yes, it was a good twist and yes, Soze escaped police custody, but his efforts to tie off one loose end resulted in high-quality images of his real face for the FBI Most Wanted list. In most ways this was truly an epic failure for him.

r/TopCharacterTropes • • Jul 29 '26

Lore Villains that would've been defeated even if the protagonist did nothing

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Laurel Hedare (Catwoman Movie): Her newly released cosmetics will cause people's faces to melt. Not only would that create a class action lawsuit but a full product recall.

Voldemort and Death Eaters (Harry Potter): Death Eaters constantly underestimate muggles. They would get massacred by the British military because a gun is faster to pull the trigger then shouting a spell.

r/TopCharacterTropes • • 24d ago

Lore (Loved Trope) We're told a character is insane and did something awful, a later flashback shows they were innocent

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Weasel (DCU) - in The Suicide Squad we're told he killed 27 children but a flashback in Creature Commandos reveals he was trying to save them from a fire

Pepper (American Horror Story) - In Asylum (s2e1), Pepper is introduced as a mental patient who murdered her nephew and cut off his ears. In Freak Show (s4e10), we see Pepper's sister killed her own baby and framed Pepper

This might be too specific

r/TopCharacterTropes • • Sep 21 '26

Lore “that line didn’t age quite so well”

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Lines or moments in media that accidentally predict something horrible.

In the sopranos, Christopher during his addiction mocks Tony’s weight saying he’ll have a heart attack by 50. Tragically Tonys actor James Gandolfini died from. Heart attack at 51.

In an old angry video game nerd episode before the 4th Rambo movie came out he went on a rant that the newest rocky movie was titled “rocky balboa” and said “what are they gonna do call the next Rambo movie John Rambo” and that’s what they did.

r/TopCharacterTropes • • Sep 04 '26

Lore [Loved Trope] Seamlessly blending real-life actor constraints into the plot

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1 - Lost (Hurley): Actor Jorge Garcia did not lose weight during filming, but his character was stranded on a desert island with scarce food. To explain why Hurley stayed heavy, the writers added a plotline where he discovers a hidden bunker packed with decades worth of Apollo candy bars and canned food that he secretly ate while stranded on the island.

2 - Fringe (Olivia Dunham): Actress Anna Torv tore her ACL in real life. Instead of pausing production, the writers quickly added a scene where her character, FBI Agent Olivia Dunham, gets brutally thrown through a car windshield. This explained why she spent the next few episodes walking with a heavy limp and crutches.

3 - Star Wars (Luke Skywalker): Right before filming The Empire Strikes Back, Mark Hamill got into a massive car accident that fractured his nose and cheekbone, leaving permanent facial scars. To explain his altered look, George Lucas added a scene at the very beginning of the movie where a snow monster slashes Luke across the face.

r/TopCharacterTropes • • Sep 18 '26

Lore The very palpable tone shift.

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Parasite- the first half of the movie is a pretty enjoyable family journey about them making their means by capitalizing on the rich people they work for. While there’s very sinister acts in it, it’s still meant to be upbeat. Then they’re eating their food, enjoying their time, when the doorbell rings. It becomes a hardcore thriller at that time and it stays that way.

Life is Beautiful- a much more bleak example, the first 40 minutes are a great, jovial rom-com, a wonderful time and story! Then the soldiers come and the latter half is the most bleak, saddening experience you’ve seen.

Evil Dead 2- a much more upbeat example, the movie (and franchise as a whole) goes from a rough horror franchise to being almost entirely action once Ash gets his gear put together.

r/TopCharacterTropes • • Sep 15 '26

Lore Final Destination-esque scene outside of Final Destination

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Regina getting hit by a bus in Mean Girls

This scientist guy trips and accidentally shot himself in World War Z

r/TopCharacterTropes • • 4d ago

Lore Cool/scary things that are inspired by unexpectedly silly things

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Titans (Attack On Titan) The author stated that one time he saw a drunk person moving weirdly on the street and that was when he got the idea behind the titans' creepy drunk-like behaviour, he was originally going to make them just giant generic zombies with less personality.

Lady Nagant's quirk (My Hero Academia) The author stated that the idea behind her curving bullets came from watching the movie "Wanted". The completely unrealistic curving bullets skill in that movie gets ridiculed by a lot of people but to this author it served as a nice idea for a superpower.

r/TopCharacterTropes • • Sep 15 '26

Lore [very common Trope] A universally supposed Good thing turns out to be a Bad thing

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1. The Hero defeating the Villain (Gameoverse): You'd think that after the defeat of the very evil Big Bad means the day is saved, right? Well, no. Because the day is about to end, along with your entire world, your friends and family, all because the hero did what they thought was the right thing.

2. Believing into Getting adopted to a new loving "Family" (The Promised Neverland): Hey, Sweetie. What's that? You think you're going to live with a new caring and family? WRONG. You're actually the next new meal to bunch of demons. Hope you're doing well in the next life.

3. The 'Great Beyond' (Sausage Party): same premise as the Promised Neverland. The food all think they going to a wonderful place called 'The Great Beyond', being treated as Nirvana and sees us as their Gods. Well... You all know what we do with food, right?

r/TopCharacterTropes • • Sep 16 '26

Lore [Video Game trope] The right choice has no real reward or is actively detrimental to the player

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The sacrifice ending - Fable 2: The “best” most moral ending involves you using your one wish to bring back everyone who died in the creation of the spire, either directly or indirectly, this repopulates the world slightly with NPCs, this is one of three options with the love ending bringing back your dead sister and your dog that died saving you and the other ending giving you a million gold

Paying back Viktor - Cyberpunk 2077: After the game truly opens up the first district you’re given a side mission to pay back your debt to Viktor for the cybernetics he gave you totalling 21,000 bucks, there used to be a reward for paying him back where he would offer slightly better cybernetics but nowadays the only reward is the satisfaction of being a good friend

r/TopCharacterTropes • • 20d ago

Lore [Loved Trope] Fictional story takes credit for a real life historical event

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  1. Quantum Leap is a story about a time traveler who “leaps” into the bodies of random people within his lifetime. In this episode he leaped into Lee Harvey Oswald & slowly becomes like Lee losing control of himself as the episode progresses to kill JFK although he initially feared he would become like him.

When he’s about to take the shot he actually leaps into one of the motorcade bodyguards & jumps in the car after the shot is made to protect Jackie Kennedy

While Sam(the time traveler) expresses how terrible he feels, his companion Al tells him that Sam changed history saying “don’t you remember?” JFK’s wife was also apparently killed in the “original timeline”

  1. Men in Black when Agent K is showing J’s character a tour of the facility, J accidentally grabs a ball that is basically Pong on steroids as it bounces across the entire facility endlessly

K catches it in a special glove designed to capture it then says “that thing caused the 1977 New York Blackout”

r/TopCharacterTropes • • Aug 14 '26

Lore [Loved when done right] That is COMPLETELY illogical… but who cares when it REALLY goes hard.

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- Gipsy Danger dragging an oil tanker (which actually lengths 180 meters… but the film portrays it slightly smaller than Gipsy) and use it as a bat against Otachi? HARD (Pacific Rim)
- Owen and a gyrosphere standing near Rexy, who’s crushing a Carnotaurus’ neck, and roaring while Isla Nublar’s volcano explodes? HARD (Fallen Kingdom)

r/TopCharacterTropes • • Sep 09 '26

Lore Translated versions takes some creative liberties with source material either out necessity or just for fun.

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In Harry Potter in order to make sense out of Tom Riddle turning his full name into “I AM LORD VOLDEMORT” his name was altered in translations.

In France for example his name was: Tom Elvis Jedusor

In My Hero Academia the bunny Mirko says in the English version “What’s up, Doc?” When confronting a doctor villain as a Bugs Bunny reference. This wasn’t the case in the original version but it’s a fun gag in the English version.