I think so to an extent. If you take it with a positive light and don't succumb to steroid abuse and obsessive behavior it's decent

- it's dopaminergic. Very fun sometimes

- increase insulin sensitivity (does it? Haven't looked into it)

- can softmaxx you + 0.5 - 1 points esp if coming from skinny or obese

- common tasks like lifting boxes or furniture are easier

But I do think it is still stressful and won't prolong your life. Just don't overdo it

Disclaimer: I’m not anti-Peat. I’ve known about Peat for 10+ years and used to be on RP forum before moderators did a 180.
Just looking for peoples thoughts on this.

So, without going too deep into this, I have multiple diagnosed health disorders since childhood (urticaria, asthma, insomnia, IBS, headaches, ADHD, etc.) and it’s genetic as my mother’s side of the family all have similar health disorders— including the ones from different continents, eating different diets, speaking different languages, etc.
it’s clearly genetic.

However, I have found that my ADHD, insomnia, general cognition, ability to concentrate/not procrastinate/work long hours without fatigue, and how well I feel are all significantly improved by a large dosage of both NAC and Tryptophan supplementation each day, with a high methionine diet (lots of beef) making me feel far better, as well.

Under Peat’s viewpoint, this is disastrous. The exact opposite of everything he stands for.

All ADHD stimulants, the greatest legal dopaminergic sources that currently exist, don’t help me in any of the above regards the same way NAC and Tryptophan do.

The “peaty” or “dopaminergic” or “anti-stress” things (all supposedly correlate) like: Coffee, gelatin, TTFD (B1 that goes to brain), Niacinamide, Vitamin D3, Tryptophan depletion and/or low intake, avoidance of starch and/or excess fiber… all make me worse. I cannot concentrate at all, worse cognition/memory, more angry, less happy, worse sleep, more headaches, muscle pains get worse, etc.

One would think glycine or taurine would help, but that’s too sedating. NAC, though, has a stabilizing effect on Glutamate, specifically. Tryptophan increasing Serotonin also modulates glutamate.

I think maybe some people genetically are already very dopaminergic in their brain and/or low serotonin or high glutamate? And Peat’s principles would not really address such people in the best way.

Does anyone else have anecdotes, thoughts, opinions, or just general ideas on this?

Modern science paints a picture - eat less calories, do fasting, eat omega 3s, sleep long, do cardio, avoid the sun, avoid sugar, avoid saturated fat to lower all-cause mortality and live to 100!

What if your time perception matters more than the number of years you live? Your days will feel 10% longer if you spend 7 hours in bed as opposed to 10 already, a fast metabolism correlates with good mood as well, which makes days more vibrant and memorable.

I won't link any studies but this seems to be the case with all non-flying, normal-sized or small mammals. Women also live longer than men and it's no secret that men have faster metabolisms.

Curious why I haven't heard about this anywhere, tell me your thoughts.

Me gustaria algun dulce que pueda cocinar por mi mismo o algun dulce comercial de buenos ingredientes para llevar al colegio o comer en la cena.

Worried about bleeding and ulcers. I take 75ug of K2 a day but should I also look into a k1 sup?

I wanna lower estrogen, inflammation, and feel better overall

Also will it negatively impact muscle growth from working out

I have never had issues with libido or erections in my life, but over the last two weeks, my erections have disappeared. I used to get them throughout the day and when waking up as is typical for a healthy man in his early 20s but now, while I still get them in the morning, they are weaker, and I rarely get them during the day. A few months ago, I adopted a more "Peat-inspired" approach: consuming OJ, more fruit and sugar(even refined sugar), reducing fat intake as much as possible (though I still consume some PUFAs, as I don’t always prepare my own meals), and eating potatoes and skim milk.

I was also taking ~250mg of aspirin and 300mg of benfotiamine daily. Additionally, I used cyproheptadine (~2mg) about 10 times. Since this problem began, I’ve stopped taking these substances, but I haven’t seen any improvement. I’m not sure if this could be due to an antihistamine effect from the cypro or perhaps low prolactin levels, but it is bothering me immensely and interfering with my relationship; even my gf doesn’t arouse me the way she used to. Also, I don’t really consume porn. Maybe once a month, out of pure boredom, but it no longer appeals to me; in fact, it now evokes a sense of disgust and shame, will probably never watch it anymore.

What would you recommend? I’m considering getting blood work done and just waiting, hoping things return to normal.
For what it’s worth, I exercise 3–4 times a week and get a moderate amount of sun exposure. One other thing which I have recently started is eating a carrot with a spoonful of coconut oil every day...

why do i have to buy an expensive vit e oil with a tiny bit of progesterone instead of 100 100mg pills

I have had some issues since 2022 after I developed long covid. One of the issues was rapid weight loss of close to 30 lbs in 1 month. I developed histamine issues, high blood pressure, candida, dysbiosis, low testosterone and high estrogen. Then I randomly gained back weight and it was mostly fat. I stumbled upon ray peats work and implemented a new diet and got back down to a healthy weight now. I still have digestive issues. My body temp waking is 96.5 under the tounge. Mid afternoon is 97.5. My thyroid levels seem perfect on blood tests. Anyway I decided to add some t3 to try and bring up my body temperature and chronic constipation. For some reason my body cant handle much t3 at all. At most I can handle 2.5 mcg a day or I will feel awful. Im eating a large amount of carbs daily, fat doesnt go over 40 grams either. Im not sure what could be causing the low body temps still. The only other medication im on is vyvanse 50 mg and ive been on that since highschool for adhd and frankly can't afford to stop taking that. I also am on telmisartan 40 for the blood pressure issues after covid. I would like to try the Wilson protocol for thyroid issues but can't seem to handle small doses. I get so hungry that its actually annoying. Any advice on this? TSH is a 1.00 t4 was a 1.00. They never tested T3 on me unfortunately

On a student budget, need to get more creative

I have all the symptoms of hypothyroid. Low body temp, swollen scalloped tongue , low energy among many others but my blood tests like t3 t4 tsh reverse t3 are always normal

After I quit ssris eight years ago I lost the ability to sweat, mount a fever , produce stowmch acid , feel any emotions at all. I have sky high serotonin and estrogen and it’s been that way for a while. I just can’t bring them down no matter what I try.

Recently I decided to try taking 100mcg or t3 a day. And nothing. No change whatsoever. Still running low body temp.

It’s like I have some channelopathy or soemthing. Does anyone have any idea how I can fix this ?

I’m just trying to learn more and get healthy and wanted to see what yall would have to say. I feel like I have elevated androgen levels. I have hirsutism and get excess hair growth on my chin, chest, my lower abdominal. I would say I have somewhat regular periods, some are delayed but I have a history of alcohol abuse and I feel like my menstrual cycle has been out of whack for the past few years due to eat. I haven’t drank in almost 30 days. I’ve never been pregnant either, and I am 26 years old. I also recently got a full Thyroid Panel test done as well to just include. I’m just curious on anyone’s advice on how I can get my hormones balanced and improve my health and fertility? I want to be a mother someday and I am scared I won’t be able to.

This is a bit of a vent post. My retarded ass took advice from someone online and I bought Georgis pansterone, which has DHEA, along with 6 keto and progesterone. I took it and started having hair come up on my cheeks near my eyes, on my forehead, my arms got hairier etc. somehow I didn’t connect it to DHEA. Then I thought I noticed my hairline receding. I kept taking it a bit, but like my crown had like a bit of a spot on it at this point. I’m not like obviously balding now, but I received an AGA diagnosis from a derm. So I hate myself for being so stupid to take medical advice from online retards. Since there seems to be no legitimate alternative to finasteride I’ll probably just take that so I don’t lose my hair and have a cold scalp. My hair looks GENERALLY the same but like some pictures seem worse. Idk if it’s my hair being much longer now therefore heavier showing more scalp or telogen effluvium making my crown look worse cus I have terrible sleep. I have very fine straight hair so maybe it’s somewhat just my hair texture. Unfortunately I don’t have any pics of my hairline and crown before taking DHEA. I might take a natural pumpkin seed oil / rosemary / caffeine topical for now and see if that helps, but if it doesn’t will probably just take fin.

Edit: I’m 26 btw. I’ve always had great hair so it’d be disappointing if my stupid decisions took me from great hair to below average age AGA onset

been peating for like 3 weeks now eating simple carbs and fats i’ve noticed my face looks a lot better and more tan aswell for some reason, but my feet and toes are still constantly cold like really cold i do have a slow metabolism and high cortisol and just text book examples of a slow metabolic high cortisol body like my frail upper body and large amount of fat around my waist which i’ve been struggling and insecure with for ages now before i started this “diet” i was in caloric deficit trying to get rid of my stomach fat which no matter how consistent i was would never leave honestly just considering taking clenbuterol to burn my fat atp jk lmao

Peat famously hated the idea that there was a set "Ray Peat diet". Annoyingly, the misrepresentation of Peat's framework has gotten worse over the last 2 years and we are now at the point where countless grifters, particularly on X, are profiting by spreading a distorted version of Peat's work which basically just amounts to eating raw carrot salads and chugging orange juice.

When you take the time to actually read Peat's blog posts and listen to his interviews, there is one simple idea that underpins his whole body of work. This is idea that your approach to dieting should involve you actively monitoring how the things you eat affect your body rather than following prescribed diets or eating certain things just because mainstream nutrition says they're "good for you". Studying the underlying physiology in abstract terms can be helpful, but ultimately the only way you can determine your optimal diet is by experimenting with eating different things and seeing how they affect you. This idea is what inspired me to build Hyperio, an app which allows you to see how your diet, supplements and other choices are impacting your physiology.

How does Hyperio work?

In a nutshell: each day, you complete 3 quick check-ins. These check-ins are what the app uses to assess your physiological status - no bloodwork, no invasive tests. You get given a score for your metabolism, cognition, testosterone, cortisol, and circadian rhythm + an overall score that brings all 5 aspects of your physiology together. These scores are cumulative and updated daily, so they reflect trends rather than just what you recorded that day. You also log your supplements, food + any relevant activities (like going to the gym) throughout the day. The app then analyzes your data on an ongoing basis to report any Correlations between your choices and your physiology. For example,

"Since you have started taking creatine, your cognition scores have improved"

"Days after you train legs at the gym tend to show higher testosterone scores"

"Since you started taking aspirin, your metabolism scores have improved"

These Correlations can be positive or negative. Once reported, you can follow these Correlations. This provides you with the data indicating how strong the association is, updated on an ongoing basis. You can also analyze the data yourself to check for associations before a Correlation is reported.

The wake-up and end-of-day check-ins involve the app asking questions and getting you to rate various things related to your metabolism, testosterone, cortisol, and circadian rhythm. You don't need a wearable or any equipment to complete these; however, there are a few empirical inputs you can choose to record that give the app a more accurate reading. These inputs include your weight, body temperature, heart rate, and grip strength. Many of the inputs related to metabolism are proxy markers of basal metabolic rate and thyroid function that Peat specifically recommended monitoring. There are additional inputs that may be relevant to you depending on your lifestyle, such as gym and exercise performance. Some things the app will ask every day; other things are asked on a less frequent basis. This means your check-ins will be slightly different each day. Each input has a '?' icon next to it, which explains exactly why the app is asking you something and how it relates to your physiology. The wake-up and end-of-day check-ins shouldn't take longer than 5 minutes to complete. Female users automatically have inputs related to testosterone removed from the app, and if you aren't interested in any other domain (for example, if you wear a watch that already tracks your circadian rhythm), you can turn it off.

The mid-day check-in assesses your cognition. To do this, it gets you to do 4 things:

- Play a focus game

- Play a memory game

- Complete a daily recall

- Complete a daily quiz

You can only do these things once a day, no repeats - this is so the app can get a snapshot of how your brain is working day by day.

Hyperio gives you a metabolism, cognition, testosterone, cortisol, and circadian rhythm score + an overall aggregate that brings all 5 scores together. Before giving you any scores, Hyperio needs you to use the app for a few days so it can get a sense of your baseline - this is called the 'calibration period'. You can choose to calibrate the app for 1, 3, or 5 days. Calibrating the app for 5 days will result in your scores being more accurate, and it will make Hyperio more useful for you.

Hyperio Insights is the section of the app where you log what you are taking, eating, and doing throughout the day. Effectively, you can log anything that has an effect on your body. This includes, but is not limited to:

- Supplements

- Food

- Activities (like going to the gym or meditation)

- Caffeine

- Peptides

You can also log ongoing lifestyle changes, like limiting screen-time or semen retention.

The app analyzes your data and reports anything it finds to you on the Correlations page. The app needs to gather a large enough sample size to justify reporting a Correlation to you, so don't expect to see any Correlations reported in your first 2 weeks using the app. If you want to analyze the data yourself, you can do this by clicking 'View Insights' on any graph on the Scores page.

Hyperio is free to download. Free users have full access to metabolism and cognition, and full access to Hyperio Insights (as far as it relates to these 2 aspects of their physiology). This means that if you just want to use the app to optimize your metabolism, you can do this for free! To analyze your testosterone, cortisol, and circadian rhythm, you must upgrade to Hyperio Premium for a small monthly subscription. Upgrading to Premium also allows you to follow Correlations and earn Awards for continued usage of the app.

Thank you for taking the time to read this and I'm happy to answer any questions you have.

Download link: Hyperio

What is the best choice for overall masculinization and male optimization if I should choice only one? My goals are:

- Totally reverse the effect of one year+ period full of stress (mostly financial reasons). I am like 70% recovered (not because I made much money but I became much more resilience during this experience)

- Get heavier bones

- Performe my best under pressure

- Maybe grow 1 - 2 inches in height (there is some threads here by adults that actually grew with seated bike etc)

I am 23 M. Thank you!

ps: At least currently I am not thinking of injecting T too, because I don't know if I will have the money every month for this, so low suppression matters here

I’m a 40 year old woman with post concussion syndrome, autonomic nervous dysfunction and PCOS. I’ve had some signs of perimenopause (thinning hair, lighter periods, absolute before my periods) but I don’t know if it’s started or if that can be attributed to something else.

I last had my TSH and ferritin checked in March and they were fine.

My vestibular therapist is a huge proponent of Ray Peat and suggested taking Progest-E daily. Not for perimenopause, but for nervous system health. Her regimen is to take 3 drops under the tongue in the evening, and wait for 20 minutes. If I don’t feel more calm and maybe a bit drowsy, to continue increasing by 3 drops until I do. Then stay with this dose everyday for 30 days, and then test out the needed dose again.

It seems strange to me to take it everyday when I’m still menstruating? Would this not mess up my cycle?

I started peating last year, a lot of orange juice honey maple syrup white rice sugar and potatoes.

Sure, I felt great but I weighed myself this morning and I’ve gone from 87kg lean and fit to 105kg and looking kinda fat.

This diet isn’t good for weight loss is it? Let’s be absolutely honest with ourselves

Maybe it’s time to go back to fasting and lowering the carbs

Is it important to stick to A2 for digestion? Or do you guys thing irn doesn't make much different

- 18 male

- many months ago i took a standard vitamin c pill and got this same low grade itching everywhere, i even tried to lower to like 500mg

- now i take a collagen 3000mg pill with b7 and C combined and theres 140mg of C

- i get rashless itching all around my body

- i tolerate other supplements like b1 and d3 + k2 fine with no side effects

- i tolerate fruit and juices perfectly fine

anyone have experience? could be that these pills are impure and one of the ingredients is causing this. not sure

perhaps i should just get a collagen without l-ascorbic acid but i rly thought this wouldnt happen again. i know it isnt peaty nor required esp with lots of orange juice but wcyd

The ones with no seed oils and as little ingredients as possible. Like just something pre workout

They shouldn't be a staple in your diet because they have little to no micronutrients but if you already consume lots of oj, milk, meat, and sources of b vitamins why not

So, I track my daily oral temps before getting out of bed, as is the recommendation. If I wake up at 6am for work I am basically hypothyroid according to my temps + pulse. It is consistently like 97.0 degrees, and I have ~60 BPM. I otherwise feel normal though.

But when I wake up at 8-9 am (without alarm) I consistently get 98 degrees Fahrenheit and ~75 BPM. Full degree of difference. Since this is probably an important detail my mid day temps easily reach 98.6, almost always going higher than that (like ~99 degrees Fahrenheit) and BPM is around 85. Hands and feet usually warm especially when buteyko breathing for co2.

Anyways, this is an extremely consistent pattern recently. When I wake up seems to highly effect the readings. Should I worry about the low readings I get at 6am? I have no idea what it suggests.

Thanks for any answers.

Other possibly relevant info if anyone needs it:

-Started taking thyroid about 4 weeks ago, idealabs tyromix, shaking very well and taking it with food. Didn't notice much from it except perhaps more stable energy and more consistent temps.

-18 year old male, suspect myself to be hypothyroid since 14-15, basically fixed it doing just the diet at 17, but recently been under more stress and started getting minor hypothyroid symptoms as of ~6 months ago(digestive issues and mood / energy have been lower than before, and also just started feeling colder) so I decided to start dosing thyroid as an experiment using Broda Barne's / Ray Peat's dosing protocols.

-I take no other supplements orally. Just food. (Milk, eggs, liver, honey etc)

-Sleep quality is okay, not great but way better than before. I can fall asleep fast enough now and stay asleep apart from waking up a couple of times, but I am rarely wide awake, I usually just wake up and fall back asleep without getting out of bed, feels like I fall back asleep very fast.

I used to have really bad sleep due to a magnesium supplement I was taking that irritated the hell out of my intestine. That is my origin story of why I rarely take oral supplements now.